Midwest Conference Fighter Rankings Updated!
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Our Midwest Conference Fighter Rankings have been updated!
Each month we will update the rankings based upon fighter’s wins and losses.
View the rankings by clicking HERE
If you have a fighter you feel should be ranked or see a mistake please CLICK HERE and let us know!
**Over the past couple of months we have received lots emails from fighters, fans, and managers throughout the Midwestern United States who have been responding to our request to contact us if they notice, that the name of a fighter(s) whose fighting record meets the ranking requirements but their names were not listed. Upon receiving these notices, we conduct a research of the fighter(s) records to make sure that it does meet the requirements needed to be listed. If all of the requirements are met, the fighter’s name is immediately added to the listed in the appropriate ranking position.
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TK421
July 16th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
It seems a new system is drastically in need. Kudos for what it is, but these rankings could be better, by far.
Take Lightweight for example, Ben Cook, one of the best records overall in the entire conference at 8-0, yet not only has he not been in the top 5 in the past few rankings, he has now fallen to #12?
When you complete these, do you not look at rankings like that and think to yourselves that while based on a points system, it may be just, but having #1 ranked fighter with a record of 10-7 (Merriweather), followed by an undefeated 8-0 fighter (Cooperider), and on down is Cook at 8-0, as well, at #12? Is Cook punished for absence from the cage? I could see it if he fell a spot or two, but it appears there is no love for fighters batting a thousand.
Beyond that, let’s bring up the fact that Cooperider’s last victory came over Michael Ambrose; Ambrose beat Merriweather prior to that (and to go further, Ambrose also holds a victory over Rob Hanna). But where is Ambrose in the ranks? Tied for #13.
I know I am not the first person to comment on such things, yet no change gets made.
Numbers are not always the way to go. This isn’t Moneyball and you aren’t Brad Pitt.
You follow and analyze these events and fighters. Stop letting an excel spreadsheet formula make your rankings.
Tracey Cooperider
July 20th, 2012 at 2:41 am
I absolutely have to agree with the last post regarding the rankings in the lightweight division in particular. No doubt that the top two fighters are Cooperider and B. Cook. I have posted and e-mailed for the past several months about this. You could have either fighter(Cooperider or Cook) in either position (1 OR 2) and that would be okay. No way can you have Marryweather @ # 1 for several reasons. It really detracts from the validity of the rankings when common sense is not used in this system. Please TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT YOUR CURRENT RANKINGS AND CORRECT THIS ACCORDINGLY.
TK421
July 29th, 2012 at 12:42 am
Right. Well, thank you for stepping in to fend for yourself, Gateway.
As the rules state, intelligently defend yourself. Doing nothing will only hurt yourself.
GatewayMMA
July 29th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Our system is cut and dry and the point system is laid out for everyone to view. We do not claim that it is perfect and we are currently in the process of revamping it. Ranking every fighter including amateurs in multiple states was a huge undertaking and we are constantly working to improve the system.
TK421
August 4th, 2012 at 4:31 am
Every ranking system based solely on statistics and numbers has flaws. BCS, March Madness, etc. You know it. We all know it.
Your excel spreadsheet is not calculating an error your the system itself is fine. The problem isn’t in the system, the problem is the system you’re choosing to use. Quit relying on a system to do that so-called “hugely undertaken” work for you.
Gateway is an MMA reporting/news source. So use your expertise an make your own rankings. I understand that some weight classes have many deserving athletes. Perhaps, look at the computer figures and take note but make the final judgement on your own personal analysis and have the last say in the matter. At least, do that for the top ten and, then let the computer do the job for your to fill in the rest of the lines from 11 and on down or personally rank top 15 or 20 and let the computer then fill in the rest.
I know that Gateway may not know much or have even seen a fighter ranking 30th in their division but I am pretty sure that you have seen or heard and probably even written about the top ten from each division.
Forgive me for putting this bluntly, you should know well enough that this system wouldn’t work before you truly implemented it let alone to let it go on this long.
TK421
August 4th, 2012 at 4:39 am
Additionally, if you have to let a spreadsheet determine things for you, develop an individual rating for fighters that takes into account more than just points for wins, round, and method.
A fighter with a .750 should not be higher rated than one who is undefeated and they both have plenty of fights under their belt and both have similar rounds and results.
Results are not always the best basis, as a fighter who knocks out Raggedy Andy in one minute will get the same points as someone who knocks out Chuck Norris in one minute. In points system you do have to add those the same way, but by no means should they be ranked on the same level.
Apply some common sense where necessary, please.
TK421
August 4th, 2012 at 4:45 am
Furthermore, why even do a rankings system if you’re not going to strive to have it as legit as possible? You’re right, it’s not perfect. And when applying opinion it won’t be perfect either. You will have opposing opinions by people. Then your “debate” will truly begin in that the debate will be about the fighters and who is better just the same as we debate about UFC fighters. But as it stands, the debate is about why the excel spreadsheet is your (only) chosen method and why you aren’t changing it.